Canada’s first Tent City will be coming to Toronto at Riverside Park this Sunday! *See below for details*
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It’s sad to see protest has been going on like this and they didn’t realized that they have been rejecting a lot of ‘d’eaf children from mainstream setting when they don’t practice “inclusive” when they reject Jane Fernandes. Secondly, they have been removed other students educational rights by block the gates. I feel sorry for those students who suffer for not getting education that they deserve because of this.
As for Administration, unfortunately they didn’t do their part for not finding the solution immediately. I am really disappointed in King Jordan for naming the building/room after himself and/or his wife. Why can’t he wait until this whole matter resolve first?!?
I can see that there are faults in both parties.
“Canada’s first Tent City” eh?
Not so much.
Why not try normal college or universities!
Why must go to USA!
We should try get Canadian Universities!!
Fight for Canada
Proud to be a Canadian!
There are many faculty who did not tell students the truth about how the department runs. The whole thing starts from the department. The departments are the one who hire those teachers who can’t sign and can sign not the provost. The departments are the one who baby down gallaudet university education because they are the one who are responsible for developing their own curriculum not the provost. JUST GIVE JANE FERNANDES A CHANCE!
Everyone, who is in favor of Jane Fernandes, apparently do not understand the unity, the bond that Gallaudetians has for Gallaudet and among themselves. I have never experienced that bond and the feel of being a Gallaudetian, (I am an alumna of Rochester Institute of Technology) but my sister is a Gallaudetian and a Canadian. To this day, she is so happy and in love with Gallaudet. Seeing that the selection of this character as the 9th President of Gallaudet has stressed a member of my family, and many friends of mine, it is apparently NOT good. I can imagine how MANY students are feeling the SAME way. That’s not healthy. 83% of Fac and staff are against Jane as of 10/16/2006. How can one lead a university when there’s nearly NO one wanting to work for her?!? A CHANCE, you say? How? She had many many chances to prove herself as the Provost of Gallaudet, and FAILED. Why give a chance to someone who has FAILED over time and time? Do your research before posting your comments, people. Unity for Gallaudet!
A true leader will understand why Jane Fernandes remains strong like The Iron Lady (Margaret Thatcher)… let me quote something from Margaret Thatcher, “If you just set out to be liked, you would be prepared to compromise on anything at any time and you would achieve nothing.” If you want everyone to like you then you’re a weak leader.
Reply to: Who Knows
Disciplining yourself to do what you know is right and importance, although difficult, is the highroad to pride, self-esteem, and personal satisfaction. — Margaret Thatcher
Is Jane disciplined enough to do what she knows is right (aka: resigning) although difficult. Is she capable of taking the highroad to pride, self-esteem and personal satisfaction?
Margaret Thatcher was the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom from 1979-1990 — do you honestly believe that she would condone what Jane Fernandes is putting us through (in this century)?
Aquinas says that a ruler cannot rule without reason. Aristotle states that if a ruler rules in its own self-interest, the ruler then becomes a tyrant.
Glad to see someone else than myself who know a wonderful leader of UK. Speaking of disciplined enough to do what she knows is right, Jane is doing it by not resigning due to her qualification is excellent even though people may not like her as a leader.
Speaking of devil Aristole was one of the philosophers who looked down on deaf and you use a quote from him. Let me tell you what he quoted about deaf people… “Men that are deaf are also speechless, that is, they can make vocal sounds but they cannot speak.” It means they have no abilities to achieve anything without be able to hear and/or speak. And other quote,
“Let it be a law that nothing imperfect should be brought up.” (It means all disabilities)
Jane Fernandes wouldn’t like that quote at all. She’s against it completely. I can see it from her work and what she have wrote for the Washington Post editorial page on Oct. 12, 2006.
Murphy’s law: “If you can’t understand it, it is intuitively obvious.”
The protest may not have a clear cut message. BUT it is intuitively understood among us which enables the unity you see…
Aristotle, yes, did call us “deaf and dumb” — but if you recall from studies, he existed during a time, an era, that did not understand nor recognize deaf people or rather disabled individuals.
If you truly believe in Jane Fernandes, outline the reasons why we should give her a chance… and please, keep the biased opinions to yourself.
I do like what you have quoted from Murphy’s Law, it’s true!
About Aristole, I agreed.
I do believe in Jane Fernandes, here are the reasons why I believe in her:
1- She resuced school for the Deaf in Hawaii.
2- She have helped several students to stay in school by finding the funds for them immediately at Gallaudet University.
3- She was the one who led during 2 murders at Gallaudet University and set up the security planning.
4- She was the one who led during 9/11 by setting up the safe zone all over campus for different types of attack such as type of chemical attack.
5- She have managed approx. 84 million dollars and approx. 640 faculty and staff on campus. Which is good candidate to be President of Gallaudet University.
6- She is determined to have an ASL environment for Deaf community at Gallaudet University and hope to be a good model for schools for the Deaf to follow.
If you want to learn more about facts, go to http://www.9thprez.com
I do appreciate our healthy debate online here.
1- There is a tent city in Hawaii, what does that say? Some of the Hawaiians do not exactly agree that JK was successful implementing their program(s). Although I cannot discredit JK in regard to this … read the Hawaiian’s blogspot for more information — they’re basically outraged that JK is taking the credit for “rescuing” their school.
2- She was selective in doing so. Some students were unable to remain at Gallaudet because she decided not to help them or couldn’t be “bothered.” A couple of students who were not being “challenged” enough at Gallaudet asked to be transferred in the Honours program and/or one of the interconnecting Universities and were declined the opportunity simply because JK felt that these students should remain in their original classrooms to assist the other students.
4- All activities were closed and students who lived off campus were asked to leave. Imagine having to drive home (if you lived in VA or MD) wondering if there will be yet another attack? Watching all that smoke rise in the air from the crash at the Pentagon? Not being able to hear updates on the radio due to your disability? No television to view in your car. Safety first, I agree … however, some students don’t feel that she implemented that strategy toward off-campus residents.
5- Managing that much money does not necessarily make someone eligable to be a president of an University.
6- Determined? Some people would disagree with this. There are different types of Deaf/deaf people that attend Gallaudet. During the lockdown, one of their (the Admin’s) primary concerns were the students who could not attend their cochlear and/or hearing aid appointments rather than diabetic individuals who were outraged that the cafeteria was closed — the Admin referred them to SHS. Wouldn’t a plea to open some points of access be more of a priority for these individuals rather than individuals who would miss their “hearing” appointments which could be rescheduled? There is more I could point out here but I will refrain from doing so as I am sure that an enlightened person like you is keeping updated with the blogs and whatnot.
Basically, a good role model does not hide in the back and hope that the dust will settle before emerging out as a leader. A good leader faces the problems head on. A good leader would confront these protestors and create some sort of dialogue. A good leader would not have approved of the 135 arrests (especially at 6th street where the gate is usually closed at specific times). A good leader … well ’nuff said, no?
I respect your choice to support JK’s appointment as the next president of GU. Maybe JK helped you along your studies at GU? Maybe you two have gotten to know each other and perhaps are friends in some sense of the word? Maybe you’ve gotten to know JK and respect her for her philosophy?
Now I am not saying that JK is a horrible person. I don’t know her (personally). But I have seen her lead. I have seen how she is trying to twist things around in regard to the protest. I have read numerous blogs where FACTS are posted and most of them are not positive.
http://www.9thprez.com isn’t exactly sufficient.
We can agree to disagree on this point. And I sincerely hope that if JK is as wonderful as you deem her to be … then she’ll reconsider her position. IF all of her accomplishments are factual, then she will have no problem finding a job elsewhere.
1- Interesting, about Hawaiian school for deaf, there is couple students here from that school when JK was working there, they said that JK did save the school.
2- She never turn anyone down who had valid reason, as for honor program she has no power to transfer those student to honor program, those student have to take exam and obviously they failed or they would’ve been in the program.
3- Jane Fernandes did set up place for students in the cafeteria, and she did social with them and provided counselor and etc for those students.
4- That isn’t true, what really happened was student wanted to leave, they were allowed to but those who didn’t want to leave, JK let them stay where they felt safe5- Yes managing that kind of money does make her a good person for the job because as a President, she will have to find money for Gallaudet University to continue to run.
6- During lockdown, that mean the whole University is closed so how can they open Audiology center for those with appointment.
To quote what you said, “A good leader would confront these protestors and create some sort of dialogue. A good leader would not have approved of the 135 arrests (especially at 6th street where the gate is usually closed at specific times).”, She did set up forums in HMB atrium last may to have dialogue with protester and she also did try to have meeting with protester this semester as well but everytime she does, protestor always shoot her down instead of having a dialogue. As for the arrest of 135 students, that wasn’t Jane Fernandes decision, that was I King Jordan’s decision which Jane Fernandes has no power in preventing.
For Who Knows:
I’m surprised you posted a response … I actually thought that this would be one of the “let’s agree to disagree” avenues.
There are always two sides to each story, wouldn’t you agree? Some may say Fernandes saved the Hawaiian School for the Deaf and some may be inclined to disagree.
As for the personalized “experiences” I decided to use as reference for #2 , 3 and 4 … I guess for everyone it was a different experience and whether Fernandes made them unpleasant for some, she MAY have made them pleasant for others.
Managing money is a quality. It is one of the qualities that is essential for “Presidents” but it does not constitute or rather serve as the sole quality that should or ought to lead up to such appointment(s). There are other qualities that need to be considered.
Those with audiological appointments could have rescheduled. It was not a life-or-death situation.
And the decision may have been IKJ’s … Fernandes approved. She does not rescind nor does she express remorse / disappointment with such a decision to arrest 135 peaceful protestors. In fact she is eager to reprimand those involved.
I can see that you are a determined supporter of Fernandes. I respect that. You are also not swayed easily; which is just fine … as I said, this just may be where we need to agree to disagree.
There are two sides to every story … its just the matter of discovering which “side” is the truthful one.
For All Others Reading This:
I do NOT support the hunger strike. Just a FYI. It is attracting unwanted attention, and yes you are deemed as “heroes” for the time being, but any rational person who steps outside of the “circle” you’ve created for yourselves, can see that this is a dangerous game you are playing. Refusing to eat until Fernandes resigns? Please. It is not as if you are going to persuade her to resign by not eating. In fact, if I were Fernandes, I’d be thinking “well, 8 less protestors to worry about” … think about it.
On another note, … Unity for Gallaudet!
Yep, agree on disagree.
Speaking of hunger strike… Oh yes, I do not like it at all. It may affect their future health. I hope that they realize that.
Hey, I wonder … who are you? Would you care to reveal your identity … ?
I would rather not to reveal my identity. Maybe I will after when things calm down. I would like to meet you some day and chat because I do enjoy our discussion.
No problem. As far as I can tell, you’re a Canadian (hence the Canadian website) … a female (per the discussions re: Margaret Thatcher), and deaf …
Mind you, I am not saying that a man would not refer to the ideology of likelihood between JK and Margaret Thatcher … but it is highly unlikely.
So I guess you’re one of the 30,000 existing deaf Canadian women [if there are that many out there].
Haha, of course I am a Canadian.
About Margaret Thatcher and Jane Fernandes, that’s your opinion. But, you haven’t really know her personally while I do.
I could be a man.
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